How Flip has the guts to call any of its cameras HD, let alone Ultra HD is beyond me. Flip is has NO optical zoom and in most cases cannot be focused ... the focus is pre-set.

While the Kodak is a far better camera it is really not HD either.

Here is what an HD video camera looks like and what it can do.

http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ModelDetail?displayTab=O&storeId=11201&catalogId=13051&itemId=243668&catGroupId=15768&surfModel=AG-HVX200A

You can see why it is rather cheeky of a point and shoot camera to call its video HD and ridiculous for Flip to even elude to there product as being HD